tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1032107545250385399.post6733158897869129206..comments2023-09-07T00:35:28.236-07:00Comments on Nerf this Druid: The Ultimate Ulduar Loot List for TreesAvernahttp://www.blogger.com/profile/05745045119122468517noreply@blogger.comBlogger21125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1032107545250385399.post-85714777946918041712009-06-16T04:08:37.886-07:002009-06-16T04:08:37.886-07:00Great list! I have another weapon poke though... C...Great list! I have another weapon poke though... Constellus! 19mp5 is really a ton. And tbh, I have no problem eating my own innervate.<br /><br />Staff of Eternal Winter<br />100 Spi, 614 SP, 104 crit<br /><br />Constellus + Ironmender<br />53 Spi, 19 mp5, 675 SP, 29 crit, 36 haste<br /><br />The main diff for me is 61 SP + 36 haste for 71 crit rating, I'll take that trade.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06656717702605575713noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1032107545250385399.post-2947852793696791642009-06-10T15:56:04.413-07:002009-06-10T15:56:04.413-07:00Crazy list, now I see why you threw those question...Crazy list, now I see why you threw those questions at me. Gives me at least 2-3 more posts to blog about! :)Orbitzhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04590607559950291762noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1032107545250385399.post-11274289212357860782009-06-09T13:52:32.727-07:002009-06-09T13:52:32.727-07:00our BIS is actually the chest from General V.
Ves...our BIS is actually the chest from General V.<br /><br />Vestments of the Blind Denizen<br /><br />You gain;<br /><br />6 Int<br />10 Spi<br />18 Armor<br />69 Haste<br />7 Spell Power<br />1 Socket(blue)<br /><br />over the nightsong robeUnknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04127867773700285627noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1032107545250385399.post-64644307882335864122009-06-09T13:46:37.826-07:002009-06-09T13:46:37.826-07:00Good catch on Soulscribe. I totally missed it. I a...Good catch on Soulscribe. I totally missed it. I agree that it is just as good as Guiding Star, and the one to take if someone is happy with their mana regen. Thanks again!Aertimushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07615534190276350761noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1032107545250385399.post-48383228578680741912009-05-30T00:28:32.705-07:002009-05-30T00:28:32.705-07:00Lovley job, thanx alotLovley job, thanx alotDaniel Adlerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07359355352871859157noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1032107545250385399.post-964248680131488402009-05-26T15:29:23.775-07:002009-05-26T15:29:23.775-07:00OMG, thank you for this list... it is AMAZING! I ...OMG, thank you for this list... it is AMAZING! I am probably going to be making one for balance druids soon, but will be making a link to yours for my other half (dual spec). <br /><br />I am in full agreement with your entire list and how you ranked them. Thank you so much!Stephaniehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02500658070336030790noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1032107545250385399.post-19926562639919016782009-05-21T11:28:14.990-07:002009-05-21T11:28:14.990-07:00Thanks for the guide. You put some solid thought ...Thanks for the guide. You put some solid thought into this list, and me and my guild do appreciate it. Thanks for the tree love.<br />FultreeFultreehttp://lookimatree.infonoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1032107545250385399.post-50440759290733164962009-05-21T08:31:40.165-07:002009-05-21T08:31:40.165-07:00@Anon: Oh, totally. My guild has only gotten throu...@Anon: Oh, totally. My guild has only gotten through Freya and Hodir thus far. =D<br /><br />Also, I wrote a post a few days ago regarding the Guiding Star. It's the post above this one.<br /><br />I just haven't yet had the time to go through my entire loot list and change it all.Avernahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05745045119122468517noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1032107545250385399.post-38409876098135551352009-05-21T07:20:07.033-07:002009-05-21T07:20:07.033-07:00Honestly,
in regards to weapons without spirit......Honestly, <br />in regards to weapons without spirit...i believe that guiding star is VERY viable option for a resto druid. from what it sounds , from your last paragraph of the list, you havnt see the later content in ulduar (not being offensive, just stating what appears to be so)...i am running with about 350 less spirit than i could be and i feel i cold take off another 200 or so, raid wide mana regen and mp5 over spirit are such viable alternatives to stacking spirit. even doing fights like general, fighting on yogg and all of the keepers i dont even find myself innervating. so i DO believe that for a complete list, weapons without spirit are viable options.<br />Longtrang < Empire ><br />Detheroc<br />AllianceAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1032107545250385399.post-18853268046483463282009-05-20T15:30:45.650-07:002009-05-20T15:30:45.650-07:00Thank you for your work in putting this list toget...Thank you for your work in putting this list together. I would like to point out however, that several pieces from Malygos25, Sarth +2/3 and Kel'Thuzad should be in your list, since they are on par or better than the 10 man Ulduar drops. ie. Blanketing Robes of Snow (iLvl226), Headpiece of Reconciliation (iLvl226), Arcanic Tramplers (iLvl226), Torch of Holy Fire (iLvl226), etc. I feel your list may lead some to believe that the best gear can only be had from Ulduar.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1032107545250385399.post-32926897446334342822009-05-19T21:21:24.635-07:002009-05-19T21:21:24.635-07:00My personal BiS-List:
http://chardev.org/?templa...My personal BiS-List: <br /><br />http://chardev.org/?template=162833<br /><br />Forethought Talisman will be changed with Show of Faith (25-Yogg). <br /><br />Cloak will be changed with the 10-Algalon Quest reward.<br /><br />Only 2pc T8.5, I will never use Rejuvenation as a Raidheal, und I do not need that tiny bit of healing on the tanks.<br /><br />Haste looks nice with 469 hasterating.<br />Manaregeneration will be fine b/c of the 2 trinkets. <br /><br />Fire Orchid Signet may be changed though, there's nothing better on chardev atm.Lyrrnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1032107545250385399.post-41083119376556780932009-05-18T21:46:00.000-07:002009-05-18T21:46:00.000-07:00@Lissanna: I really do have to back in and change ...@Lissanna: I really do have to back in and change up some of the weapon info, so take that list with a grain of salt for now. Once I fix it up, maybe we'll be more on the same page =DAvernahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05745045119122468517noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1032107545250385399.post-82262681562119522702009-05-18T17:18:00.000-07:002009-05-18T17:18:00.000-07:00Thank you for beating me to this! I've been pa...Thank you for beating me to this! I've been passing on a lot of loot because I just didn't know if I should take it or not. I was about to make my own gear list (I started once or twice and then got frustrated & gave up), and then saw that it was already done here, so now I don't have to spend the time on it! I probably disagree in some places (like the weapon stuff), but that's where personal preferences kick in...Lissannahttp://restokin.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1032107545250385399.post-34496770567543131882009-05-18T07:31:00.000-07:002009-05-18T07:31:00.000-07:00I agree with Aertimus about the Guiding Star.
I'l...I agree with Aertimus about the Guiding Star.<br /><br />I'll pick it up over my Torch of Holy Fire once everyone in my guild will have a decent weapon.<br /><br />Otherwise, i found your list very interesting, accurate and helpfull.<br /><br />Thanks to both of you for your blogs.Tolkraftnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1032107545250385399.post-51552679549928178592009-05-18T05:46:00.000-07:002009-05-18T05:46:00.000-07:00@Anons: Aw, thanks guys!!
@Aertimus: After your c...@Anons: Aw, thanks guys!!<br /><br />@Aertimus: After your comments, you really got me thinking about spirit and its role and itemization in our gear. I much too frequently disregard gear without spirit, but maybe we need to start doing the actual math (like you did) to figure out if that spirit is worth it (which, thanks to you, we've seen is *not* worth it, in the example you gave). <br /><br />Anyway, expect a post about it sometime soon. =D<br /><br />Oh PS - I checked out your gear list, and it's great =DAvernahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05745045119122468517noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1032107545250385399.post-4990126084424007632009-05-18T03:48:00.000-07:002009-05-18T03:48:00.000-07:00Quickly turning into my favourite resto blog, afte...Quickly turning into my favourite resto blog, after Resto4Life finished.<br /><br />Gotta rate you #1 alongside Tree Bark Jacket :)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1032107545250385399.post-72619448512961768932009-05-18T03:46:00.000-07:002009-05-18T03:46:00.000-07:00Great guide, cheers.
Will help me pick what to s...Great guide, cheers. <br /><br />Will help me pick what to spend my DKP on :)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1032107545250385399.post-28079124159710057152009-05-17T20:57:00.000-07:002009-05-17T20:57:00.000-07:00Well, unboggle your mind - I just simply hadn't do...Well, unboggle your mind - I just simply hadn't done the math ;)<br /><br />You didn't miss anything major, and you're actually more right due to the fact that our innervate won't be spirit based come the next patch. Great for non-spirit people you want to put an innervate on, however, it makes spirit even more obsolete than it already is....<br /><br />I don't have time right this second, but I'll update the post soon =D<br /><br />Thanks for bringing this to my attention!!Avernahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05745045119122468517noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1032107545250385399.post-55247289567655250842009-05-17T16:42:00.000-07:002009-05-17T16:42:00.000-07:00I left Constellus out of the discussion because it...I left Constellus out of the discussion because its a hard mode only item anyway, and most people are a long ways from there.<br /><br />If you factor in spellpower from spirit on Plasma Foil in ToL form (and we will even throw in Kings), Guiding Star has 54 MORE healing power in tree form. So we don't need the spirit for that. <br /><br />The mana regen from the spirit is nice. It gives me about 20mp5 from spi/int. But Guiding Star has 15mp5, so Plasma Foil only gives 5mp5 more. <br /><br />5mp5 vs 54 healing power? I wouldn't have given that a second thought. If I'm missing something major, could you show me your math?<br /><br />Also, if the argument is save it for shamans I totally respect that position - but please don't tell resto druids this weapon is only mediocre for them. <br /><br />Again - I agree with this ENTIRE list (and almost all of your blog) so my mind is boggled by this one disagreement. Its nice to have someone to talk numbers with.Aertimushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07615534190276350761noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1032107545250385399.post-89968241640761788092009-05-17T15:46:00.000-07:002009-05-17T15:46:00.000-07:00I mentioned Soul Scribe as a weapon that drops tha...I mentioned Soul Scribe as a weapon that drops that doesn't have spirit.... I could mention more (like Guiding Star), but then I'd feel the need to mention Constellus and Pulse Baton, etc etc etc.<br /><br />Besides, taking a weapon with no spirit is a HUGE hit for resto druids. Personally I don't think it's worth it. You really, really need that spirit for regen and healing power in tree form.<br /><br />The other thing is that since it *doesn't* have spirit on it, it IS better for other classes (like shammies ^^) to have - and I'd rather have them take a good weapon, than have me take a weapon that's only mediocre for myself.<br /><br />Thanks for the input!Avernahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05745045119122468517noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1032107545250385399.post-26860170236746850712009-05-17T15:18:00.000-07:002009-05-17T15:18:00.000-07:00Great list! It is daunting to read all that data a...Great list! It is daunting to read all that data and make your own list instead of relying on filters and weights to do it for you and trusting them blindly. I started making mine as soon as data started rolling off the PTR, so I was able to make an initial post about a month ago, but I didn't get around to updating mine hardcore until this weekend too. Wonder why we both had the free time this weekend?<br /><br />First - mad props for ranking all the way down 5 in some cases or 12 for weapons! I was like heck no, we are drawing the line at 3ish. <br /><br />Second - I totally agree with your list, (including including 10 man gear when its better) except that I include cloth in mine, but if I pull the cloth they are nearly identical. I'm going to bid on it if I think it is appropriate, feelings won't be hurt, and it is a big upgrade for me. I don't think druid's should write it off all together, just keep in mind we are second in line.<br /><br />One little thing - Shoulderpads of Dormant Energies is a Hard Mode only drop. <br /><br />Okay now the only thing that isn't sitting right... Why isn't Guiding Star on your list as a weapon? Even though it lacks the spirit of Plasma Foil and Stormtip, it has (raw) 15mp5 and 63 spellpower which TOTALLY make up for the 40ish loss in spirit.<br /><br />Then, when you put Guiding Star with Ironmender (which you agree is the best off hand), it trumps Lifebinder and Rapture by 55ish spellpower. MAYBE pick up Rapture if you are having mana issues and the haste will hurt you more than help you. But no way is it better than Lifebinder.<br /><br />So what are your thoughts on Guiding Star? Just want the spirit? Or saving it for the resto shamans since it is hands down their best in slot and only probably our best in slot (pre-hard modes and legendaries)?<br /><br />Again - great list with great comments. Thanks for such a quality blog and taking so much time to do so much game research!Aertimushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07615534190276350761noreply@blogger.com